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Tories Take another Step to the Left

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by jonbey, 29 Jan 2020.

  1. jonbey

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    Only until it makes a profit and then gets sold off again...

    That's what has happened to the East Coast line...

    Three times so far!

    The nasty party leopard never changes it's spots!
     
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    Under Labour RWR shout they are raising the debt and debt is bad. Under the Tories the debt has grown faster, well debt isn't too bad if you can service it.

    RWR - the idea that you nationalise services and raise debt is abhorrent to the ideal of the free market, under Tories well debt used for capital spending is acceptable.

    RWR are not voters as much as loyal supporters who you can rub their nose in the dirt and they will respond with - as long as there is someone your rubbing their face in the dirt then I have someone to look down upon.
     
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    Don't forget the subsidies. The only source of profit for their friends running railways.

    So, Northern Rail will be cheaper to run now until sold again.
     
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    Moan, moan, moan. Instead of criticising the government for taking away a franchise that wasn’t supplying an acceptable service for commuters, let’s hear from each of you what you think should happen. I take it you do all have your own ideas of how this can be solved? Well, let’s hear 'em.
     
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    He moaned.
     
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    end neo liberal policies

    free markets only work for the rich who gain from the deal and dont care about the failure

    when a different government gets in that is less motivated by self interest, we might see the chaos reversed

    there ya go
    solved
     
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    Typical non-answer from someone who wasn’t even asked a question.
     
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    It had tremendous popular support because the split-up and sell of of the railways was a stupid idea that has gone badly wrong.

    Right-wing extremists derided it as communism or a return to the 1970's

    luckily for the Cons, hardly anyone read the actual Labour manifesto in 2017.
     
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    Ha. Yet you voted for Brexit on a whim with nothing more than second hand nostalgia of empire. Now you want evidence, but yourself decided on emotion.

    But lets start. What do you understand about how the railway was privatised and how competition works.
     
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    https://fullfact.org/economy/how-much-does-government-subsidise-railways/#
     
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    I understand nothing at all - that’s why I’m asking. What do you think should have happened. Not 'why has it happened' it has, so what's next and try to leave Brexit out of it.
     
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    Again, another non-answer. You’re the one moaning. I’m just asking why and what do you think should happen now. Can you not understand the question?
     
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    Perhaps he agrees with most British citizens on this point. I do.

     
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    Well, you’re all very good at saying why you think it’s all gone wrong but none of you can say what you think should be done now. Not what has or has not been done in the past. No? Ok. Carry on moaning. :rolleyes:
     
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