What was the goal of Brexit?

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Ah, I see you can be reasonable (y) As I`ve just posted ^ the lack of investment by all goverments caused deep damage that hasn`t yet been repaired (and perhaps never will be), because they believed they could cope with people from overseas coming in, then Brexit and the lies from all sides caused people to panic and some to actually leg it. I see no problem with a points based system for people still wanting to come and indeed it would help weed out the people with fake qualifications and those that are unable to hold a conversation in english.

The problem is that the UK economic model needs working age immigrants in large numbers to make it work.

A points based system wont really help because this country needs huge numbers of people to work in care services, agriculture, hospitality, parcel delivery, warehousing etc.

That nice Polish girl that serves you in Costa wont be on £30k a year.

Governments have cleverly deflected the blame for austerity, stalling wages, lack of infrastructure investment and directed it on immigrants. The media are complicit in this.

Hence why the industrial North in areas which havent adjusted to a post heavy industrial era and have lacked government investment are suffering the worst inequality. They are the areas that voted most for Brexit which ironically will hurt them most.
 
Net Migration is about 300k.

https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN06077/SN06077.pdf

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47400679

Non EU Migration has increased.

Tell me where the blame lies.

Since 1979 successive Governments have reshaped the UK economy towards services with the decline of manufacturing, now all Industrialsed countries are struggling with this, its not exclusive to the UK but we seem to have put in place policies that have accelerated it. We have light touch regulation for banking which has created an economy that has a large financial sector.

The problem with this is that we have rewarded financialisation of the economy at the expense of the real side of the economy. Factor in a market system which rewards short termism we have chronic low levels of investment. To solve this low investment we have encouraged foreign investment attracted by our weaker unionisation and labour laws compared to the EU. FDI (foreign direct investment) has flowed into the UK but the benefits have not been shared equally.

So we have high levels FDI, low levels of productivity as we are a more service led economy so labout utilisation is higher, this leads to more people and then more demand for housing.

The percentage that the land contributes to the cost of a new build if I am correct has risen from about 40% to over 60%.

Our economy has rewarded those who own land and monopolies like the utilties and we have become a renty economy, where a select few who own these assets can draw income from everyone not due to any increases in productivty, investment etc.

Which has resulted in rising inequality, anger and disenfranchisement.
Yep, agree with most of that. (y)
 
The problem is that the UK economic model needs working age immigrants in large numbers to make it work.

A points based system wont really help because this country needs huge numbers of people to work in care services, agriculture, hospitality, parcel delivery, warehousing etc.

That nice Polish girl that serves you in Costa wont be on £30k a year.

Governments have cleverly deflected the blame for austerity, stalling wages, lack of infrastructure investment and directed it on immigrants. The media are complicit in this.

Hence why the industrial North in areas which havent adjusted to a post heavy industrial era and have lacked government investment are suffering the worst inequality. They are the areas that voted most for Brexit which ironically will hurt them most.
Agree with most except the points based system which is a proven in other countries.
 
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Agree with most except the points based system which is a proven in other countries.
Apologies, point based system would work -I was thinking of the minimum earning level of £30k that the current Numpties in power want.

Of course there wouldnt be a problem if the 1 million overstayers werent allowed to be here nor would so many people be here if the EU transitional arrangements to restrict the new A8 countries that joined, had been imposdd.
 
Apologies, point based system would work -I was thinking of the minimum earning level of £30k that the current Numpties in power want.

Of course there wouldnt be a problem if the 1 million overstayers werent allowed to be here nor would so many people be here if the EU transitional arrangements to restrict the new A8 countries that joined, had been imposdd.
Haha, didn`t see the point of the nice Polish girl and 30k in the first post, understand you now.
 
Stopping immigration from the EU was the number one issue for quitters...

But blow job has just confirmed that he won't have a target number, and immigration won't fall but it will just be from different places - which might not exactly please certain people who voted leave!

He's also confirmed a plan for an amnesty for half a million 'illegals'...

So could any quitter tell us of any practical benefit of leaving the EU?

Because nothing has been forthcoming so far!

Are you a complete idiot ?
 
I wonder which one is Festive.

https://mobile.twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/1154645226084077568

We should send them back home, now that includes you coming back from Portugal?

:mrgreen:
Oh shoosh :LOL:

I told you I don't give a flying fck about colour theres some epic people here in this country roots from god knows where don't care. But..if our country was overrun by a rapidly sectarian groups of nuns for exampleI would equally repel them. Religion is evil and manipulative.
 
Even if the case, your post was in answer to 'the main reason for voting to leave the EU'.

Your reply was to link something about the number of muslims.



As Frankie Boyle said "Most people voted leave to stop immigration from Europe because they don't like Pakistanis".
 
Are you a complete idiot ?
Nah, you claimed that 'honour' long ago (y)

So have you worked out any practical benefit of leaving the EU yet?

Oh sorry, I shouldn't expect an answer from a 'complete idiot'...

Funnily enough 17.4 million other complete idiots refuse to answer that question as well :LOL:
 
Nah, you claimed that 'honour' long ago (y)

So have you worked out any practical benefit of leaving the EU yet?

Oh sorry, I shouldn't expect an answer from a 'complete idiot'...

Funnily enough 17.4 million other complete idiots refuse to answer that question as well :LOL:

Such a rookie :LOL:
 
Nah, you claimed that 'honour' long ago (y)

So have you worked out any practical benefit of leaving the EU yet?

Oh sorry, I shouldn't expect an answer from a 'complete idiot'...

Funnily enough 17.4 million other complete idiots refuse to answer that question as well :LOL:


Abolishing the tampon tax ;)
 
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