Winter of Discontent (202)2

[securespark]

Strikes planned by many.

Will this be the tipping point for the Tories?

 

[motorbiking]

Voters aren't stupid, they know the strikes are coordinated.

 

[gas112]

Postmen have a genuine point 400 million given out in dividends but no money for a decent wage rise

 

[securespark]

Most companies are like that.

The train companies are one of the worst.

 

[JohnD]

Voters aren't stupid, they know the strikes are coordinated.

With inflation at 13%, most working people are getting a real-terms pay cut.
And have had twelve years where real-terms wages have not risen.

This government has done a magnificent job in uniting the country.

Nurses and ambulance paramedics, for example.

 

[motorbiking]

Who pays for these public sector wage rises and triple lock pensions?

 

[Justin Passing]

Who pays for these public sector wage rises and triple lock pensions?

Tomorrow's people?

The country needs to get its 'rse in gear and get exporting stuff the world wants, or something. Ideas on a postcard.

 

[motorbiking]

UK has always done well at operating in the high margin end of the value chain.

 

[^woody^]

Where is all this money coming from to pay the exorbitant pay demands and the associated contributions to the golden pensions?

And all demands come with no efficiency savings it seems.

 

[jeds]

The problem with giving big, unionised employee groups large pay rises, is that everybody else suffers. There is a very easy way around it, just give everybody a 15% wage rise - everybody across the board. Unless there's a problem with this. Answers on a postcard.

 

[JohnD]

Strikes planned by many.

Will this be the tipping point for the Tories?

I see the Tory backwoodsmen have crushed the promise to build more homes.

Bad news if you are a young family dreaming of one day owning a house.



Look on the bright side.

This year may be worse than last year

But it's better than next year.

 

[JohnD]

The problem with giving big, unionised employee groups large pay rises, is that everybody else suffers. There is a very easy way around it, just give everybody a 15% wage rise - everybody across the board. Unless there's a problem with this. Answers on a postcard.

Another approach would be to have a prices and incomes policy. Would you wish suppliers to be prevented from raising their prices?

How about house prices and rents?

Mortgage interest rates?

I gather @motorbiking wants his pay to be frozen. How about you?

 

[JohnD]

Where is all this money coming from to pay the exorbitant pay demands and the associated contributions to the golden pensions?

Is it the same people who pay for the State Pension Triple Lock?

Yes it is.

But they're mostly Tory voters.

So they got it.

 

[jeds]

Prices and incomes rose very little in 10 years or more, without a policy. Doesn't stop the unions using that as a stick. The real problem with income are those at the lower end. Personally I would adjust all lower incomes to close the gap. The higher end rail earners won't mind taking a zero uplift for a year or two to allow the others to catch up, I'm sure. Same as nurses - my best friend is a senior nurse so I know exactly what they earn. She 100% agrees with me that she doesn't actually 'need' a wage rise and she would be happy for any raises to be given at the bottom end.

 

[Notch7]

Voters aren't stupid, they know the strikes are coordinated.

Voters aren’t stupid, they know stagnation of wages is coordinated.

why are wages now at 2010 levels for Joe public whilst those at the top of the tree have massively increased their wealth during the decade or austerity.