Brexit fatigue

[noseall]

There are some people who think that "no-deal" will be a clean break and it's all over.

but it actually means the beginning of many years of negotiation with the EU

This is the bit that is never explained to No Deal quitters. The first thing any government will need to do is begin negotiations with the EU.

It's astonishing just how naïve some folk are.

 

[transam]

Quitters are indeed blind ignorant ***** ...

But could you remind us how you voted in the 2016 referendum?

I voted to leave

 

[transam]

This is the bit that is never explained to No Deal quitters. The first thing any government will need to do is begin negotiations with the EU.

It's astonishing just how naïve some folk are.

whats astonishing about it ? are you so naive that you actually beleive that all those who voted actually voted for EU reasons

plenty probably did not even know what the EU was

but there u go s*** happens its called democracy even bone eads like you get to take part

you will just have to deal with it Noseall

 

[Vinty]

This is the bit that is never explained to No Deal quitters. The first thing any government will need to do is begin negotiations with the EU.

It's astonishing just how naïve some folk are.

The problem is the EU doesn't want to negotiate.

 

[noseall]

The problem is the EU doesn't want to negotiate.

You are silly.
The EU/UK have negotiated a deal. It took years of many meetings and talks.
The EU have negotiated deals with other trading nations.
The EU DOES negotiate trade deals. The UK has a deal on the table but does not want it. Silly Vinty lives in a cave surrounded by fellow trolls.

 

[JP_]

The problem is the EU doesn't want to negotiate.

You mean, the EU doesn't want to negotiate again. The negotiations are over, we had 2 years and what has been agreed with the EU must therefore either be agreed by UK parliament or abandoned. That's how deals work, and the negotiating for article 50 is set in law, laws that we helped make.

"EU leaders insist that, by this point (OCTOBER 31), the UK must choose whether to ratify the exit treaty, opt for a no-deal Brexit, or cancel its departure.
The deadline is not arbitrary. As Mr Macron pointed out, the end of October begins a new five-year political cycle in Brussels, as a new European Commission takes office.
https://www.ft.com/content/64e7f218-4ad4-11e7-919a-1e14ce4af89b

It's that simple. Negotiations are over. The EU needs to move on, EU parliament opened today, it needs to redistribute the seats we leave to other countries - they cannot put their parliament on hold while we sit around moaning and whinging.

We have 3 options, leave with the deal agreed, no deal, stay in the EU.

Place you bets now!

 

[Vinty]

You are silly.
The EU/UK have negotiated a deal. It took years of many meetings and talks.
The EU have negotiated deals with other trading nations.
The EU DOES negotiate trade deals. The UK has a deal on the table but does not want it. Silly Vinty lives in a cave surrounded by fellow trolls.

There is no deal, what has been negotiated so far has not been endorsed by the British parliament.
Look up the definition of agreement.

 

[ellal]

It's that simple. Negotiations are over. The EU needs to move on, EU parliament opened today, it needs to redistribute the seats we leave to other countries - they cannot put their parliament on hold while we sit around moaning and whinging.

The pathetically childish brexit party MP's turned their backs on the EU this morning....

Whilst of course taking EU wages

 

[JP_]

There is no deal, what has been negotiated so far has not been endorsed by the British parliament.
Look up the definition of agreement.

that is true. So unless parliament change their minds about the "deal", there are two options: hard brexit, cancel brexit.

One will result in economic and political suicide, the other will result in some people moaning about the death of democracy.

Hmmm, I wonder what the politicians will choose to do.

 

[noseall]

what has been negotiated so far has not been endorsed by the British parliament

That's our bad luck and not down to a lack of effort from the EU. They are saying accept the deal on offer, stay in or leave without any deal whatsoever.

The irony is that if we leave without taking the deal on offer, the UK will be begging the EU to begin trade negotiations. We won't get better terms than we have now.

 

[ellal]

that is true. So unless parliament change their minds about the "deal", there are two options: hard brexit, cancel brexit.

One will result in economic and political suicide, the other will result in some people moaning about the death of democracy.

Hmmm, I wonder what the politicians will choose to do.

I wouldn't be surprised if they go for 'economic and political suicide', because it won't affect the ruling classes...

But rather than the other option being thought of as the 'death of democracy', it's actually the other way around...

Because democracy dies when people are denied the right to change their mind!

 

[noseall]

...what has been negotiated so far....

The problem is the EU doesn't want to negotiate.

Silly Vinty can't make up his mind. Vinty's opinions are not to be taken seriously.

 

[Notch7]

This businessman is suffering Brexit fatigue.

In Feb due uncertainty, he had to stop exporting. It caused his overdraft to increase to £180k.

He is real pleased the same uncertainty is rearing its head again in Oct

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/present...ess-owners-response-to-jeremy-hunts-comments/

Do leavers have any sympathy for his situation?

 

[JP_]

I think most leavers must be dreaming of becoming farmers - it's all part of the plan.

 

[Vinty]

Silly Vinty can't make up his mind. Vinty's opinions are not to be taken seriously.

Taking my comments out of context as usual, perhaps I should have said that the EU is refusing to negotiate further even though their offer to Mrs May was thrown out by Parliament by a record majority.
Look up the definition of the word deal ,without the consent of both parties there is no deal.
The EU should be back at the negotiating table if they want to avoid a no deal.