Partygate

politics aside - we had a very different approach to securing the vaccine to the EU.

Roughly…

1. Back lots of horses, early to secure your preferential order and beat the market.
2. Control access to demand to enable negotiation of a good deal for you.

Both options are valid procurement techniques, but 2 fails, if someone else is doing 1. Particularly if it’s a race.

Few here will argue that the roll out of the vaccine over social distancing etc. was the main driver in beating covid.
That's not quite right. The EU just picked a different portfolio of vaccines to us. We decided not to order any Moderna until quite late so didn't get that for ages.

Which is why their percentage vaccinated was able to catch up to us at the end once we stopped using Astrazenica as much.
 
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That's not quite right. The EU just picked a different portfolio of vaccines to us. We decided not to order any Moderna until quite late so didn't get that for ages.

Which is why their percentage vaccinated was able to catch up to us at the end once we stopped using Astrazenica as much.

We approved Pfizer and Astrazeneca a month before the EU, got the orders in and paid the full asking price while the EU were still haggling because they're so important.
When the enormity of the **** up by the EU finally dawned on them they tried to block exports of vaccines from the EU knowing that Astra produced a proportion of their vaccine there, even going so far as invoking article 16 to halt the movement of vaccines.
They backed down the following day, but not before their reputation on the world stage was in tatters.
Jean Claude Juncker said at the time:


The EU has been overly cautious and budget conscious over Covid vaccines and should step back from waging a “stupid vaccine war” with Britain, the former European commission president Jean-Claude Juncker has said.

Juncker, who was replaced by Ursula von der Leyen in 2019, compared the EU’s approach to vaccination unfavourably with that of Britain where the rollout has been speedier.


He also said he was “not a fan” of the commission’s export authorisation mechanism under which officials have been empowered to prohibit shipments.

“This could create major reputation damage to the European Union, who used to be the world’s free trade champion,” Juncker told the BBC’s HARDtalk programme. “And so I don’t think that this is the right way to do it.

“I do think that we have to pull back from a vaccine war. I think that there is room for dialogue, for discussions, for developing arguments on both sides of the Channel. Nobody in Britain, nobody in Europe understands why we are witnessing, according to the news, a stupid vaccine war … We are not in war, and we are not enemies. We are allies.”

The commission updated its export authorisation mechanism on Wednesday to allow officials to block shipments to countries with a high level of vaccination coverage or those that restrict exports through law or in their contracts with suppliers.
 
On Question Time t'other night, the audience were asked to put their hand up if they believed BJ. Nobody did.
 
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evidence ?

I get that nailed on lefties don't like the landslide conservative victory he delivered. But, he:
- got the UK a covid vaccine ahead of the EU
- supported Ukraine in their time of need
- got rid of the disastrous prospect of a leftie Labour government under Jeremy C.

Its a long list if you want me to continue.

But now he's moved on and Mr Sunak is quietly getting on with doing a great job.
you can be a nailed on Tory and still have the morals and ethics to know that Johnson is appalling
 
There seems to be some collective amnesia going on here why the likes of Trump and Johnson got to the top of the political pile.
The morals of the ally cat were preferable to what was in place before.
 
We approved Pfizer and Astrazeneca a month before the EU, got the orders in and paid the full asking price while the EU were still haggling because they're so important.
When the enormity of the **** up by the EU finally dawned on them they tried to block exports of vaccines from the EU knowing that Astra produced a proportion of their vaccine there, even going so far as invoking article 16 to halt the movement of vaccines.
They backed down the following day, but not before their reputation on the world stage was in tatters.
Jean Claude Juncker said at the time:


The EU has been overly cautious and budget conscious over Covid vaccines and should step back from waging a “stupid vaccine war” with Britain, the former European commission president Jean-Claude Juncker has said.

Juncker, who was replaced by Ursula von der Leyen in 2019, compared the EU’s approach to vaccination unfavourably with that of Britain where the rollout has been speedier.


He also said he was “not a fan” of the commission’s export authorisation mechanism under which officials have been empowered to prohibit shipments.

“This could create major reputation damage to the European Union, who used to be the world’s free trade champion,” Juncker told the BBC’s HARDtalk programme. “And so I don’t think that this is the right way to do it.

“I do think that we have to pull back from a vaccine war. I think that there is room for dialogue, for discussions, for developing arguments on both sides of the Channel. Nobody in Britain, nobody in Europe understands why we are witnessing, according to the news, a stupid vaccine war … We are not in war, and we are not enemies. We are allies.”

The commission updated its export authorisation mechanism on Wednesday to allow officials to block shipments to countries with a high level of vaccination coverage or those that restrict exports through law or in their contracts with suppliers.
And they bought into Moderna which we hadn't. So when we decided to drop Astrazenica we ran short for a while until our turn came to get our late Moderna order.

There was bluster but in the end our approaches didn't differ much.
 
There seems to be some collective amnesia going on here why the likes of Trump and Johnson got to the top of the political pile.
The morals of the ally cat were preferable to what was in place before.

In the eyes of people like yourself who admire dishonest liars.
 
And they bought into Moderna which we hadn't. So when we decided to drop Astrazenica we ran short for a while until our turn came to get our late Moderna order.

There was bluster but in the end our approaches didn't differ much.
Perhaps Johnstone's antenna knew what a new kid on the block was about and a burgeoning company like Modena were stopping at nothing in their pursuit of "riches"
 
There seems to be some collective amnesia going on here why the likes of Trump and Johnson got to the top of the political pile.
The morals of the ally cat were preferable to what was in place before.
dishonesty is never good. No matter who, or from what political party.

But some people lap it up
 
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