Vaccine passports.

oh deary deary me 900,000 tests done per day hundreds of thousands of them done because of work and travel not because people are feeling ill or showing symptoms and as had been said the vast majority of people with it show no symptoms or feel ill so its basic science the test is going to show more positives than if it was only ill people going for it
But you were talking about positive rate.

the positive rate doesn’t go up if you test more.
 
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To find out the prevalence of infection in the population as a whole, sampling tests are carried out for the ONS.

Currently, 1 in 50 people in England are infected.

Many of them have not yet been diagnosed.

So you can expect to meet someone in your daily life.

Picture a school classroom, a pub, a shop, a bus, an aircraft, the House of Commons.

Those of us who are fully vaccinated have a good chance of not getting seriously ill.

Prime Minister Johnson prefers not to wear a mask, and his sheep copy him.




  1. One in 50 people in England are estimated to have had Covid last week, the ONS says
  2. Its survey suggests that 1.3 million people in the UK tested positive last week, the highest number since records began
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-59087077
 
oh deary deary me 900,000 tests done per day hundreds of thousands of them done because of work and travel not because people are feeling ill or showing symptoms and as had been said the vast majority of people with it show no symptoms or feel ill so its basic science the test is going to show more positives than if it was only ill people going for it
And you think that people without symptoms are more likely to be positive? Because that's what you're saying. Otherwise testing more people will decrease the percentage positive.
 
How would you definitely prove it?
Yeah, Russia hasn't bothered vaccinating and they're doing fine. They might be experiencing more deaths than they've ever had before due to Covid, but that in no way relates to the fact they've only got around a third of their population vaccinated.

Also, you're lying again. The number of people in hospital with Covid are.
29th Oct 2020 7 day average: 11,000 ish
28th Oct 2021 7 day average: 8,900 ish
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare

Last year we were just starting the second wave, rather than being two months into the third wave. So it's a stupid comparison, but even so it shows you're wrong.

You're a poor attempt at a troll.

Are you a work-from-homer by any chance IT Minion?
 
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  1. One in 50 people in England are estimated to have had Covid last week, the ONS says
  2. Its survey suggests that 1.3 million people in the UK tested positive last week, the highest number since records began
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-59087077
It also states that there has been a drop of 9.8% in new cases this week - back to where it was before the increases they, for some reason, found the need to report.

It says it "suggests that 1.3 million would test positive" - but they did not.
 
"UK Covid-19 infections hit highest level recorded
Oliver Barnes

UK Covid-19 infections have hit the highest level recorded in the pandemic, surpassing the January peak, according to the most comprehensive official survey of infection rates.

An estimated 1.27m people were had coronavirus in the week ending October 22, according to the Office for National Statistics, up nearly 9 per cent on the week before and higher than the early January peak when 1.22m infections were recorded in a single week.

But hospital pressures remain far below January levels. In January, there were nearly 40,000 Covid patients in hospitals across the UK at one time. The figure now stands at just below 9,000.

The ONS infections survey offers the most accurate snapshot of the pandemic, but the data lags daily case data by a week.

Since Sunday, daily case figures across the UK have been falling, suggesting the booster campaign and the school half-term break were restraining infection rates.

On Thursday, 39,482 Covid cases were recorded across the UK, down 24 per cent from the same day last week.

The government has come under mounting pressure to implement ‘Plan B’ measures including compulsory mask-wearing and working from home to stop Covid and flu straining the NHS over winter."

FT.com
 
It also states that there has been a drop of 9.8% in new cases this week - back to where it was before the increases they, for some reason, found the need to report.

It says it "suggests that 1.3 million would test positive" - but they did not.
You idiot. That means if we tested everyone then they estimate 1.3 million would be positive for Covid. But we haven't, we're not Slovakia.
 
Yes, dumbass, but JohnD stated that it said:

"Its survey suggests that 1.3 million people in the UK tested positive last week, the highest number since records began"
 
Poor Ruskies

"Russia’s excess mortality soars since start of pandemic"

"FT analysis shows an additional 753,000 people have died during the pandemic compared with historical trends"


FT.com

"Russia has recorded 750,000 excess deaths during the coronavirus pandemic, one of the highest tolls in the world, according to analysis of government data by the Financial Times that highlights the stark impact of the disease as the country imposes fresh restrictions to curb its spread. An FT analysis of excess deaths during the pandemic — the number of deaths above the historical average, factoring in most recent trends in the mortality rate — puts the total at 753,000 at the end of September.

Excess deaths are a method used by demographers to measure the real impact of pandemics. The figure means Russia ranks second to the US in terms of absolute number of excess deaths and third behind Peru and Bulgaria on a per capita basis.

The Russian excess death toll is calculated using total mortality figures collected by Rosstat, the federal statistics agency. It differs from official Covid-19-related figures published by state agencies in Russia. Rosstat publishes its own monthly Covid-19 death toll, estimating that 462,000 people had died of the respiratory disease as of the end of September.

The country’s inter-agency coronavirus task force, a body including ministers and other officials designed to co-ordinate the pandemic response, attributed 203,549 deaths to the disease at the end of September."
 
Yeah, nobody is dying of covid, they are just dying of natural but unknown causes in huge numbers.

Somebody will probably pipe up in a moment and say "oh, but did they die with, or of, covid?"

They died of covid denial.
 
It says it "suggests that 1.3 million would test positive" - but they did not.

You idiot. That means if we tested everyone then they estimate 1.3 million would be positive for Covid. But we haven't, we're not Slovakia.

Yes, dumbass, but JohnD stated that it said:

"Its survey suggests that 1.3 million people in the UK tested positive last week, the highest number since records began"

Apology accepted - now go away.
It's a case of sloppy reporting I'm afraid.
If you look at the source:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...iruscovid19infectionsurveypilot/29october2021
It suggests that England + Wales + Scotland + NI would indicate that 1.3M people would have tested positive.

"we estimate that 1,102,800 people in England had COVID-19
we estimate that 77,800 people in Wales had COVID-19 "
etc
 
In Media 15th Oct

“About one in 60 people in England had Covid-19 last week”
 
Somebody will probably pipe up in a moment and say "oh, but did they die with, or of, covid?"
Sadly stupid people don't understand the difference because of their inability to think for themselves :rolleyes:
 
Sadly stupid people don't understand the difference because of their inability to think for themselves

Yea, stupid doctors for certifying deaths the way they do. Idiots.
 
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