Winter of Discontent (202)2

[JohnD]

The bigger problem is that the wages of ordinary working people have stagnated for ten years.

The bigger problem is that essential workers have been treated like scum while the economy grows and the rich get richer

Did you stand on your doorstep clapping for fund managers and currency traders?

Did you value the hospital staff, postmen and transport workers who kept the country on its feet?

Did you cheer like the Tory MPs?

WATCH: The moment Tory MPs cheered after blocking a pay rise for nurses

ON Thursday night, Prime Minister Boris Johnson and Chancellor Rishi Sunak joined in as the UK applauded its NHS staff.

www.thenational.scot

Motorbiking ignores my post and makes something up

 

[motorbiking]

Show us where you think you saw that.

So it isn't the conservative governments fault then?

A reminder what you posted:

In other news, the government is damaging the country by worsening industrial disputes and prolonging strikes.

They must be trying to stir up conflict.

"UK ministers blamed for blocking possible rail strikes deal
Government prevented higher pay offer and added tougher conditions on working practices"

 

[JohnD]

You make out that the Tories are responsible for our high inflation.

Is what you said.

Prove it.

 

[motorbiking]

So its not their fault then?

Do you agree?

 

[Brigadier]

Few weeks training at best to drive a train

Drive? Don't you mean, hold on?

 

[JohnD]

I'm glad to see you have backed away from your previous false claim.

Next.

Is the Conservative government, in power for the last twelve years, responsible for the stagnation of wages?

Yes.

Example:

WATCH: The moment Tory MPs cheered after blocking a pay rise for nurses

ON Thursday night, Prime Minister Boris Johnson and Chancellor Rishi Sunak joined in as the UK applauded its NHS staff.

www.thenational.scot

 

[JohnD]

Next.

NHS nurses and ambulance paramedics have never had a national strike before.

What government has been in power that caused employment relations to deteriorate to such terrible levels?

 

[transam]

blimey there was the 3 day week

Power cuts

People had to take food into hospitals for there sick relatives as the nhs staff went on strike

Transport union came out on strike for a 50% (?) pay rise

Under takers went on strike
Bodies piled up

Refuse collectors came out
rubbish piled up in the street there was even fear of a cholera out break

 

[JohnD]

This is what you said

You make out that the Tories are responsible for our high inflation.

I see you've edited it now to hide your lie.

 

[JohnD]

The UK economy has been damaged by the folly of Brexit and the ineptitude of our Conservative governments. Currently our government is working to prolong disputes.

Chancellor Hunt is now trying to shift responsibilty onto the workers.

Look out for more stories pushing this tale, in the Tory press and from Motorbiking.



"In an interview with the Financial Times, the UK chancellor did not deny that ministers had blocked a potential 10 per cent pay offer to rail workers spread over two years; a subsequent 8 per cent offer was immediately rejected by the RMT union.

Speaking at the launch of a package of financial services reforms in Edinburgh, Hunt said he was “more confident” than many others about the prospects for the economy, but that controlling inflation was critical for any recovery from the recession.

He said the independent Office for Budget Responsibility thought inflation would fall to 3.7 per cent in the first part of 2024, down from October’s 11.1 per cent.

But he warned that this “very dramatic” fall in inflation could be jeopardised unless unions, especially in public services, moderated their pay demands."

However....

"Ministers’ claim that higher pay for public sector workers would fuel inflation is contested by economists. They argue that with pay already growing faster in the private sector, public sector wage deals do not set any precedent — and that ministers should set pay at a level that allows the public sector to recruit, leaving the Bank of England to manage inflation."

 

[securespark]

Let’s face it all then train drivers could be replaced

Few weeks training at best to drive a train

Or even a few days ??

No. Just no.

You know it can't be done. You're being silly now.

 

[Notch7]

Its possible there is an argument for the lowest paid workers. But they aren't train and tube drivers

RMT represents almost no train or tube drivers.

RMT mostly represents: track maintenance, electricians, ticketing staff, cleaners etc.

 

[Notch7]

Who will pay for this bloated union pay deals

If nurses pay and ambulance drivers pay is so great, why is retention so appalling?

the answer is because pay and conditions aren’t good enough

 

[Notch7]

In other news, Unions are choosing the worse possible time to inflict as much damage to the country for selfish gains, forcing the government to increase taxes on people who have no job security and lower pay.

 

[sxturbo]

The higher end rail earners won't mind taking a zero uplift for a year or two to allow the others to catch up,

I think train drivers on 60k a year say different, apparently 60k a year is a struggle to live in....