Woman and Sex, means biological sex.

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But I am open to alternatives.
I'm open to alternatives, but not at birth. As people grow up I fully accept that questions may arise, and I don't think it's a mental illness. I support everyone's rights to be who they want to be, within the law of course.
 
Of course they are. If their sex is incorrectly assigned and recorderded at birth, and they desire to live their lives in a different gender, they re transgender.

What did you think transgender is?

Incorrectly assigned!!! Lol, are you for real?
 
No, they followed the correct path at the time.
What they thought was the correct path..

They weren't saying "shall we make it a boy, or shall we make it a girl". they were correcting "conditions" in an already determined sex.
Determined how, if the sex was indeterminate? Balance of probabilities?

And shall we take it as read that you just have no interest in the testimony of people who believe that they made a mistake in their determination and "corrections"?
 
Yo are demonstrating your intellectual ability, and it isn't benefiting your argument.

Still higher than yours. Especially when you think trans people believe they are incorrectly 'assigned' at birth!
 
CArt <-> horse?

Your prejudice has decided the order in which to place the cart and the horse.

Its a matter of personal experience of knowing someone who is mentally unstable in their choices regarding their sex......
 
Is your comfort blanket a woke magazine?
What's "woke"?

Do you mean this?

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What they thought was the correct path..
After expert examination.
Determined how, if the sex was indeterminate? Balance of probabilities?
By testing if need be. I've already posted what they do.
And shall we take it as read that you just have no interest in the testimony of people who believe that they made a mistake in their determination and "corrections"?
Of course I have, I've said so a few times. I've no doubt that both "nailed on" boys and girls have gone on to have doubts and lead different lives. That doesn't mean everyone should be a third option at birth, just in case.
 
That's why i asked JohnD where he stood on androgyny.
He keeps wanging on about kittens without really thinking why.
Maybe he fears that thinking will result in things emerging which contradict his prejudices.
 
Of course I have, I've said so a few times. I've no doubt that both "nailed on" boys and girls have gone on to have doubts and lead different lives. That doesn't mean everyone should be a third option at birth, just in case.
Who's suggested anything about everyone being a third option, just in case? Not I.

Are you another one of those trying to join in this discussion on the basis of imagined statements by others?

And in any event, some intersex people have said that yes, they would rather have been left as "other" until later in life, and there's growing medical support for that position.
 
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