Does god exist?

[boolie]

it's not known whether the universe is finite or infinite.

source please

 

[EddieM]

source please

Type is the universe infinite into Google, choose a source / number of sources.

 

[IT Minion]

you're effectively concluding - 'the universe was created by nothing'.

IMO it's more rational and logical to conclude the universe was created by 'something' - replacing the word 'something' with god is just semantics

And btw I'm not religious...

No, I'm saying it wasn't created.

I'm not aware of anything in Astrophysics that says the universe will end either, nor anything that says there was nothing before the big bang.

You'd probably get a lot out of a brief history of time. It's an excellent read.

 

[EddieM]

No, I'm saying it wasn't created.

I'm not aware of anything in Astrophysics that says the universe will end either, nor anything that says there was nothing before the big bang.

You'd probably get a lot out of a brief history of time. It's an excellent read.

IIRC there are 2 theories about the end of the universe.

First the big crush. Expansion stops and goes into reverse. No evidence for this happening.

The expansions continues until the universes energy becomes so dispersed that atoms and subatomic particles essentially fall apart and the universe becomes nothing again.

 

[noseall]

There's no reason to believe in a God, and if one did exist then it's not something that deserves praise or worship.

In the same way that other much revered, much maligned, much talked about, much praised, much worshipped, has caused deaths, suicides, marriages, marriage breakdowns and is the glue for all humanity - love.

Why should believing in God be any more silly?

 

[boolie]

By all scientific accounts the universe is about 14 billion years old - that is not infinite.
https://astronomy.com/news/2020/03/...niverse is still,13.8 billion years to travel.

 

[IT Minion]

In the same way that other much revered, much maligned, much talked about, much praised, much worshipped, has caused deaths, suicides, marriages, marriage breakdowns and is the glue for all humanity - love.

Why should believing in God be any more silly?

There are physical processes and mechanisms that underpin love.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/275795

There is nothing that underpins God.

 

[EddieM]

By all scientific accounts the universe is about 14 billion years old - that is not infinite.
https://astronomy.com/news/2020/03/is-the-universe-infinite#:~:text=First, it's still possible the universe is finite.&text=The observable universe is still,13.8 billion years to travel.

I was referring to it's size not it's age. As it stands it cannot be proved that the universe is finite or infinite.

 

[noseall]

There is nothing that underpins God.

Faith.

 

[IT Minion]

Faith.

That's what I said.

 

[boolie]

I was referring to it's size not it's age. As it stands it cannot be proved that the universe is finite or infinite.

Well the age of the universe is the key part in answering the question: Is there a god?

Because you have to ask the question... how did it get created?

 

[noseall]

There is nothing that underpins God.

There is no logic, rhyme or reason to love. Yet we embrace it like nothing else.

If you are a believer in the importance of one, then you have to see the logic (or lack of) in the other.

 

[EddieM]

Faith.

I don't believe in God (whatever god is) but I'm honestly a bit envious of people who do.

 

[EddieM]

Well the age of the universe is the key part in answering the question: Is there a god?

Because you have to ask the question... how did it get created?

how implies causality.

 

[IT Minion]

There is no logic, rhyme or reason to love. Yet we embrace it like nothing else.

If you are a believer in the importance of one, then you have to see the logic (or lack of) in the other.

Not at all. As I said there are underlying physical mechanisms that can be observed at a chemical level that make up 'love'. There are evolutionary mechanisms that show why we evolved it and there is absolutely logic, rhyme and reason in love. It's just sufficiently chaotic that it's hard to predict exact outcomes.

As for God, there's none of that.
and never will be.