Brexit fatigue

[Vinty]

How many people are starting to get fed up with this debacle which is starting to get somewhat tedious.
So many deadlines and metaphorical cliffs to fall over, but it never seems to happen.
I am in Wetherspoons today and the consensus is who gives a ****.

 

[^woody^]

Back in 2016, my good friend (a leave voter) said "It will never happen. It won't go through,it can't go through it will be dragged out and on and on, with MP's not voting for it and the those who voted remain protesting and launching a campaign to delay, frustrate and prevent us ever leaving. May will negotiate a crap deal, and in the end everyone will be so worn out, no-one will give a toss about leaving".

I said "WTF are you on about? Its a done deal, it was a referendum, the electorate's vote must be carried out, there is no way it can't happen. You f'in idiot"

SMH

I'm thinking of asking this prophet for next weeks lottery numbers and I can GTFO of here.

 

[JohnD]

sadly the party nominally responsible for running the country have backed themselves into a corner, trying to out-do each other with ever wilder promises they know cannot be delivered.

why?


• Many Tories are cynics faking it. They publicly back no deal, knowing it would be a disaster, but are counting on the rest of parliament to stop it. They just want to sound hard, because they live in fear of deselection by their hard-Brexiter local parties. Tory MPs know that the job market for ex-Tory MPs is currently pretty weak.

• The corollary: there is no political advantage in grasping reality if your voters don’t. Steven Sloman, cognitive scientist at Brown University, points out that most people cannot describe the workings of a toilet. The EU and the international trade system are even trickier. Sloman says the only way to handle complex issues is therefore to listen to experts. Politicians sometimes did that, until populism came along.

https://www.ft.com/content/8d7d7e0e...egmentId=6e897e5c-77a8-8731-2426-f972c6185129

 

[Vinty]

Listening to the experts got Britain into the Iraq war.
When someone mentions the word expert beware.

 

[ellal]

I am in Wetherspoons today and the consensus is who gives a ****.

On the other hand the owner of that s hite corporation gives a ****

Because leaving the EU will enable him to more easily avoid paying his fair dues, whilst ironically calling for lower taxes for his grotty boozers!

 

[Notch7]

Brexit has certainly seen the politics of this country plunge to new depths.

It is just staggering how the current leadership campaign is based entirely on winning votes from people that actually want to be lied to.

Boris says: 'I guarantee we will leave on October 31' -and Tory nembers say: 'wonderful I will put my X in the box'

What surprises me is that everybody seems to be talking about how we should leave.

Nobody is interested in talking about why.

And nobody is talking about staying in the EU -if article 50 is revoked there would be a huge jump in confidence in the markets, businesses could start planning new investment. Can leavers not see that would be a good thing?

 

[ellal]

Can leavers not see that would be a good thing?

Quitters are indeed blind ignorant ***** ...

But could you remind us how you voted in the 2016 referendum?

 

[Notch7]

But could you remind us how you voted in the 2016 referendum?

I voted to leave.

Which I accept was a mistake.......

I am really struggling to understand why so many people want to hear the words 'we will leave on 31st Oct, deal or no deal', when the facts just prove that wont happen.

 

[noseall]

I am really struggling to understand why so many people want to hear the words 'we will leave on 31st Oct, deal or no deal', when the facts just prove that wont happen.

Sash. Don't tell Motman, he'll explode, the poor old sod.

 

[ellal]

I voted to leave.

Which I accept was a mistake.......

A big mistake!

I am really struggling to understand why so many people want to hear the words 'we will leave on 31st Oct, deal or no deal', when the facts just prove that wont happen.

I cling to the hope that the Brexitanic won't actually set sail.

And although I think mayhem may well have played a blinder in her delaying tactics, I fear Bluekip may well get their self-centred/ignorant/xenophobic way...

And in years to come, their equally ignorant xenophobic followers will be slapping themselves on their rather large foreheads and uttering 'Doh'!

 

[JP_]

on the plus side Brexit could solve our obesity crisis ... Just 0.6% of those who harvest the UK's crops are British.... when manufacturing fails, we can all get back to farming. Much healthier work!
https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-f...-in-fields-as-eu-workers-move-abroad-11453766

Farmer Chris Chinn told Sky News he is a realist and not another Brexit "remoaner".
In total, his business employs up to 1,000 seasonal workers and they have struggled to fill their positions this season.
Twice during their asparagus season they had to leave crops unpicked in the fields - something he describes as "soul destroying".

I better start limbering up now, ready for the 2020 harvest season. Not sure these old bones will get much out the ground though.

 

[JohnD]

Not even the Brextremists are pretending now that we will be better off by leaving. They say they don't mind being worse off; they don't mind their families losing their jobs, they don't mind the UK breaking up.

Wow!

There are some people who think that "no-deal" will be a clean break and it's all over.

but it actually means the beginning of many years of negotiation with the EU and other countries, in an attempt to get terms that are anywhere near as good as those we enjoyed as members of the EU.

When somebody approaches the EU, wanting to strike a new deal, the first thing they'll say is "You have to pay your debts, and you have to agree an acceptable solution to the Irish Border problem." Otherwise no deal.

and that will be better than we have now, because... er......

 

[ellal]

Just 0.6% of those who harvest the UK's crops are British....

Best we get those useless xenophobic BlueKip voters out into the fields then...

It'll probably be the first honest days work most of them have ever done!

 

[Notch7]

Not even the Brextremists are pretending now that we will be better off by leaving. They say they don't mind being worse off; they don't mind their families losing their jobs, they don't mind the UK breaking up

The goal posts have moved.

In 2016, leavers claimed the UK would be better off.

Now they are saying 'we knew all along the economy would be damaged'

 

[ellal]

The goal posts have moved.

No they haven't...

The 'goalies' are proven liars, who now insist it is the line that they are stuck on that has moved underneath them...

Best we get VAR to investigate their illegal behaviour